Creating your own legacy can be incredibly difficult, but doing so while carrying someone else’s can be even more burdensome. Cinta de Oro, formerly known as Sin Cara, is no stranger to doing so, though.
While wrestlers normally start out masked and end up performing without a face covering, the former Hunico went in the opposite direction – telling Inside The Ropes‘ Lead Writer Gary Cassidy how performing anonymously actually removes all restrictions and allows the Luchador to express himself freely in the ring.
Whether as Hunico, the second incarnation of Sin Cara, or the sequel Cinta de Oro, the Mexican star has always brought energy to the ring – and he told Inside The Ropes all about the decision to carry on as a masked performer, how he used to rib his fellow wrestlers, and opened up about the use of Mexican talent in WWE.
Welcome, Cinta de Oro! How are you today?
Hey, brother, I’m good, I’m good. I’m excited. I’m excited to do this interview. Thanks again for taking your time and talking to me. I’m just excited to let everybody know what’s going on in my life.
Thank you so much! Well, let’s get straight to it. The first thing I want to ask, I mean, you just pulled your Sin Cara mask off there and you have another mask underneath. You’ve wrestled with a mask, without a mask, with many different masks. You were portraying Sin Cara, now portraying Cinta de Oro. I believe that means Golden Ribbon and it continues that legacy of another wrestler who sadly passed away. Did you ever consider just going back to wrestling without a mask, And what was the decision like of carrying on another legacy? Because it’s the second time you’ve done so.
Well, to be honest, like, my essence has always been with the mask, even when I did the time as Hunico without a mask, I felt that it wasn’t me. You know, I enjoyed the time and it was fun, a lot of fun, the character. I really enjoyed it. I was doing the best with it. But to be honest, like my essence is with the mask and I feel more comfortable with the mask on. I feel like it’s me, you know, it’s part of who I am. And when I went to Sin Cara and portraying Sin Cara, I just felt great. It was awesome to be able to portray this character with a mask. I can have a normal life in that sense because sometimes, when I travel, nobody really knows who I am, you know, and then I can eat – no problem. I can do things publicly, and other people have a harder time doing that. So in a sense, that’s a good thing about wearing a mask, even though I did it without a mask. But it’s been a long time since I’ve done it. So I think the new generation doesn’t really remember that part of it, but it’s part of my career and I really enjoyed it.
You mentioned Cinta de Oro obviously existed before. He was one of my idols as I was a little kid here in Ciudad Juarez, El Paso, where I grew up, and I used to watch him, and he was an amazing wrestler. So when he passed away in March of 2016, the next year, I did like a little tweak to my mask. I did a fusion of Cinta de Oro mask with Sin Cara, and it was in honour of him, you know, to pay tribute. And then, all of a sudden, I started using the mask more and more, people started liking it. And then, when I asked for my release, I got a call from the people from social media asking me what name I was going to use because they had to change my social media accounts. And I said… “Ah, I have 90 days from here, December til whatever, whatever the 90 days,” and then Twitter takes a long time to do changes. So I thought, “Ah, we have enough time.” So then I told them. That was at noon on a Sunday and then in the afternoon at 6pm, they already had changed my name. So I was, like, in shock. A friend of mine called me. He was like, “Have you seen your social media?” I’m like, “No.” “Go check it out, check your Instagram.” So I go into Instagram and there it is – “Cinta de Oro” on everything. So I never had a chance to really do a press conference like, “I’m going to change my name,” it was just right off the bat.
So then I spoke with their family. I spoke with the kids, telling them what had happened and I understand if they didn’t want me to continue or whatever, and they were like very excited about it. His kids were like, “Man, we would love for you to take over the legacy – if you want that. Obviously we understand.” And that’s how it came about. The crazy thing about all this is that it was he was one of the people that I really admired when I was a little kid and he later became a friend. I used to work with him a lot. He was a heel, I was a babyface. So I got to work with him a lot. Then he became like a mentor. There’s another friend of mine that wrestles as Cinta de Plata – which is silver ribbon. They used to be a tag team, and then they became like my mentors. He was just awesome throughout my life.
When he passed away, I ended up, you know… I’ll show you this. [Cinta de Oro pulls out a mannequin head clad with a torn blue mask] This is the mask that he lost in 1990 against Fishman in Ciudad Juarez. The actual mask from that time. This mask is about 31 years old – and I own it now. He’s part of my collection. When he passed away, I contacted the person that had it – now he’s my friend – and I own a lot of his stuff from when we used to wrestle.
I have a mask that he wore the day before he passed away. He wrestled the night before and then he passed away the next morning and his kids give me that as something to treasure, and I keep it in my collection also. So, you know, it’s something that is very positive in a sense, to be able to now carry the legacy. He never left Juarez, El Paso, because, by the time they wanted him to go to Mexico and continue his career, he already had kids. So he never wanted to leave his family – so I respect him for that. So, in that sense, I want to pay tribute in that sense of continuing the legacy and putting the name “Cinta de Oro” not just in Mexico or the States, but all over the world and I think slowly, slowly but surely, we’ve started to do it.
Hopefully, once everything gets back into the swing of things and we can be able to perform, I think people are going to start to know a little more about what I’m doing now and how the name came about.
So, we’re definitely going to look back at your career, but you are going to be wrestling as Cinta de Oro on the other side of the world soon. You’re going to be part of a super show in Qatar with Bret Hart, Sting, etc. What an honour that must be! I want to ask, if you could choose your own match at that show – or even just against anyone in the history of wrestling – what would it be?
That’s a great question. Well, during my time in WWE, I got to wrestle Sgt Slaughter and Hacksaw Jim Duggan when I was Hunico, and that was a lot of fun. That was A LOT of fun.
But if I can pick and choose who I would wrestle, obviously people would always, in my case, because of the styles, I would pick either a Rey Mysterio or Eddie Guerrero in a WrestleMania match, a title match. That would have been an amazing experience for me to be able to work with either of those two legends because of the styles and where we come from. I think we would have had a lot of chemistry.
I never got to work with Rey as a heel. We wrestled as a tag team and got to wrestle in the 30-man… What’s it called? The 30-man nothing-to-do battle royals. Whoever’s in catering, they put them in that match. So I got to work with him in there, but I think that would have been an amazing experience.
Actually, I pitched a couple of ideas when Shawn was in the company with us, but nothing ever came about that. But, you know, life is crazy and it’s full of surprises. Maybe in the future. You never know.
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— QPW (@QPWrestling) April 2, 2021
You’re on that show as Cinta de Oro and you explained the name change, but I remember you appeared on a show – shortly after your WWE release – as Sin Cara, before changing your name. What was the response to that? Did anyone reach out from WWE about it?
Well, I did a presentation for AAA in Mexico two weeks after I was granted my release and there was a lot of stuff on social media that I was going to get sued and all kinds of stuff by WWE, this and that, but I’ve always done things the right way.
I called the office and I asked them, “You know what? They asked me to do this, can you guys give me permission?” And they said, yes. That’s why I did it. I wasn’t going to do nothing that was going to jeopardise my career in any way, shape or form and it was a lot of fun to be able to do it.
After that day, I got a call from the office again, like, “Why did they use WWE?” and things like that. I was like, “I don’t know. I have no idea. I thought I was going to do a run-in and that was it,” and it was true. I didn’t have any idea they were going to use that – and that’s when they called me but I told them, “No, that’s the last time I will do this. Don’t worry about it, I’ll change my name,” and that was it. That was it. But it was a lot of fun to be able to do it and be back in Mexico again and feeling the crowd and the emotion of being around the locker room with a lot of the friends that I haven’t seen in a long time. So it was cool.
— Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide (@luchalibreaaa) December 15, 2019
Yeah, and I guess really cool to be Sin Cara in Mexico and shock everyone! Glad to hear you got permission but, even if not, Stone Cold always said act now and apologise later!
So, you’re now carrying on the legacy of the late Cinta de Oro, but you’re no stranger to carrying on legacies. You took over from another person portraying Sin Cara who wasn’t looked so favourably upon. How did you react when that idea was pitched to you? Was there any hesitance due to how he was portrayed previously?
I was happy! I was really happy. I was excited about the opportunity to showcase… What I wanted was to be under a mask again and be able to perform the Lucha Libre style that I missed because I was a heel. I was doing Lucha, but it wasn’t the same. I had to change the style a little bit – I was the bad guy – but now I was going to be able to perform in the light and let myself be who I really was, in that sense.
I didn’t know how bad backlash that guy had, to be honest. I didn’t! Until I ended up… Because before that, I didn’t have social media. When I became Sin Cara, that’s when I started my Twitter account, that’s because the company realised that I had no social media because I kept telling them, “Yeah, I do. I do. I do.” But I never did until that moment. That’s when I started being like, “Man, they don’t really like this guy.”
Still to this day, I get confused with him with the match he had when he broke his finger and they stopped the match. People to confuse me, I’m like, “No, that’s not me.” I used to answer to them but not anymore, because whatever, right? But yeah, I would always get that or, “Oh, did you do this?” And I’m like, “That’s not me.” Like, “This a different guy wrestling. You’re going to know the difference between him and me.”
I dislocated my shoulder and then I continued the match with Big E. I remember it was Barclays Center. So obviously if I break my finger, I’m going to continue. I broke my finger before and nothing happened, it’s fine.
But yeah, I did – I realised that I had to work really hard to put the character over, but I wasn’t too worried about that. I was just worried about doing things in the best way that I could and getting myself in that light where people could look at Sin Cara differently and realise that I was talented – that’s why they picked me to continue the character – but it was tough.
I think there was a lot of times where people got a little confused and there were like, “Is he the other guy or this guy?” Every time that I would do like an interview, I would always mention and never lie to them, “I was Hunico, yeah, that’s fine. But now it’s my time, it’s my opportunity to succeed.” I think I did things in a great way to the best of my ability.
Obviously, a lot of opportunities never came for me, like him. He was always in pay-per-views because they were trying to build him up, trying to make him the next Rey Mysterio – which nobody can be the next Rey Mysterio. Nobody. No matter how talented they are, there’s only one Rey Mysterio, only one Eddie Guerrero. There’s only one of a kind or one of each. But it was just tough, I think, for him trying to fill the shoes. He never really adapted in any way, shape or form and I think also because he didn’t want to. The mentality, you’ve got to have it up here and sometimes people don’t have it.
I had everything because I wanted to accomplish a lot of things, but I never had the opportunity to really succeed. Unfortunately, a lot of decisions that happen, it’s not because of you. Fans always say, “Oh, if you would have worked hard enough, maybe…” And you’re like, “You don’t know because you’re not there,” about not working hard or trying to become better. It’s because whoever points the finger at you and they run with you, that’s good. Obviously, you take the opportunities as they go, but I never got the opportunity that other guys have had in the company.
Let me give you a perfect example. Dean Ambrose left, right? Jon Moxley left the company. He was given everything. He was a Grand Slam Champion and even after, he left. He was miserable. Imagine me, that never got the chance to to wrestle for a US Title, for the Intercontinental Title, for the Title, for anything. Imagine me. How would I feel? He felt that way and he was given everything – and it was tough for me to be able to look for those opportunities because I never got them. And it wasn’t because of lack of effort or lack of talent. It was because somebody in the office decides who they want to pick. It’s unfortunate, but it’s true.
I think some people do just look at face value, but I think – or hope – most people do really appreciate that effort and ability of underutilised talents. Speaking of which, I want to ask about a couple of my favourite storylines and matches you were part of – and let’s see if you feel the same. My favourite was actually you confronting Braun Strowman to protect the honour of luchadors after a mask removal. What was it like working with Braun and do you remember that fondly?
It was a lot of fun. He’s a great guy to be around. People that know him, he’s funny, he enjoys life – and for me, it was the first feud that he got up in WWE. So I got to work with him for a few months, two or three months. We did television, we did live events, we did, I think South America – a tour in South America together.
It was a lot of fun because, for him, it was also like a learning experience. It was his first tour with us getting a program and he’d started to get rolling. So it was a lot of fun to be able to work with him and in a sense, try to help him out to become better and and what the company wanted out of him, so I have a lot of good memories about our matches.
We used to… I’m a funny guy when you get to know me, I like to have fun and, even when we used to wrestle, I would always say things to the boys because you couldn’t see my mouth moving. So, as I was working, I would always say funny stuff where I would talk to them in Spanish and they would be like, “What the hell is this guy saying?” With Braun, it was a lot of fun because he wanted to learn, he wanted to become better. He knew that he had an amazing opportunity in his hands – and now you can see he’s doing great. So it’s fun to be able to see somebody grow from that, from where I started with him to where he is now.
We had a match and I think it was one of the tours, I can’t remember where – I think it was Lima, Peru, or somewhere – where we do the face-off. He’s huge so we’d do the face off and that day was cold. And me being me, I told him, I was like, “You know, your nipples are really hard, right?” And he’s like, “Shut up, don’t make me laugh. Don’t make me laugh.” Then we started wrestling, he started kicking my butt…” He was like, “You BSer!” But it was a lot of fun, he’s a great guy – so I’m glad that I got to work with him.
I got to also work with Rusev when he first came up also, you know, so that was a thing – I didn’t really enjoy MY work, but I would help the guys. But then I always also wanted a piece of the pie, not just to be used as a stepping stone for other guys, you know?
So, you mentioned before that you weren’t on many pay-per-views, but one of my favourite Sin Cara memories WAS a pay-per-view. Elimination Chamber Tag Team Match. My God, that was complete chaos. So many moving parts! How do you even go about planning that, and how difficult was that match to pull off?
That day was crazy! Everybody was… A lot of the guys were a little upset and a lot of things that were going on, it was just a lot of, like, crazy stuff going on.
It was the first Tag Team Elimination Chamber ever so I remember we were trying to get everything in order and and then it was just crazy. The other day, I posted a picture of me and Cesaro because he won his WrestleMania match and then Tyson [Kidd] commented on that. He said like, “Oh, I remember what happened before the match” because me and Cesaro got in a little argument before the match. So everybody thought we were going to get in this crazy fight or whatever, and then we ended up having an amazing match. It was a great experience for me to be in the first.
So a lot of the things just came out on the fly, you know, a lot of things that we did. We just felt the crowd and it was just an awesome experience. So, it was good to be able to work with all those guys – Tyson, Cesaro, Kofi, all those guys. Everybody wanted to perform to the best of their abilities. When you have people working like that, you know the match is going to be great. I really enjoyed that match.
And you mentioned a lot of your opponents there, but I need to ask about the Lucha Dragons. Man, you guys were LOVED by the crowd and you had everything – the look, the chant, the energy and the fans on your side. You’ve left the company and Kalisto is a little bit missing in action. How do you reflect on that and are you still in contact with Kalisto?
I think it’s… It’s not a little bit, he’s missing in action! That’s the reality. It just sucks because he’s a great worker, he’s a great performer. You know, he’s gotten into the best shape of his life to show them that they can… He wants it – but then again, he doesn’t get those opportunities.
Yeah, we still talk here and there. Obviously, I live in El Paso. He lives in Florida. We have different points of view on certain things but, at the end of the day, we’re good friends, we shared a lot of great moments together in our careers and I was just sad when they broke us up, I think we could have done a lot more together as a team and I think we never really got to mature as a team, and achieve a lot of things that we wanted.
When we parted ways, I think it was… I don’t know. I think they were afraid that we were getting over or we were really good or something, but it was just unfortunate that they split us up very soon.
Oddly, the worst thing you can do seems to be getting over before you’re supposed to!
Exactly! When they don’t want you to get over! Look at what happened with Rusev.
One of the things that I need to ask about which was more controversial than you would think – the trampoline! Did you have any say in that?
Well, that was the company’s idea. Obviously, when the first Sin Cara did it, they used that. So when they I took over the character, they asked me if I wanted to continue doing the trampoline because the other guy didn’t like it.
He didn’t like it. There was a trip because he couldn’t go over the rope. I did. I enjoyed it. For me, it was fun. But what I did, I would always train before the shows. And we always tell the guys from the crew, “Hey, could you put the trampoline so I can do a couple of jumps, a couple practice jumps?” I would always make sure that they had it in the right place, and they had it at the right angle.
A lot of people were like, “Oh, you use a trampoline!” I was like, “You should try it. You should try it and see if you can you can do it. Then you can talk and you can judge me after that.” Because a lot of people are like, “He needs a trampoline to go over.” But it’s not easy, because if you don’t hit the middle part of the trampoline, you go to the side or you go this way or if you hit the ropes… So it has to be perfect every time and I would always practice it because I enjoyed the entrance. It was something right off the bat, people would see you jump over and the kids would be like, “Wow,” you know, excitement. And that’s what I like about doing the trampoline.
It really did energise the crowd! So, one thing anyone who has watched you will know, you’re a very proud Mexican. I mean, you’re wearing your mask and your Mexico football top as we speak! Andrade another man who has been released recently, and he’s been vocal about the lack of Mexican talent on the WrestleMania card. Do you have any thoughts on that? Is it something that upsets you or is it just an annoying coincidence?
No, no, no. Obviously, as a Mexican… [He sighs] ..I’m a little obviously saddened because of the situation, because I understand that there’s a lot of great talent, there are great wrestlers out there that have been there and haven’t gotten those opportunities.
It’s true. I mean, what, now they’re saying that they want to go to Mexico and get more talent – for what? Sitting in catering? Doing the same thing? Putting us on the side – just because you can pay us, you want to keep us not achieving our dreams? And that’s why he left. That was the main thing.
Before I left, you know, I spoke with some of the guys also about that and a lot of them decided to stay, which fine. I understand that – economically. You get your cheque every week and you have that stability, economically, but they’re not happy.
— “EL IDOLO” ANDRADE (@AndradeElIdolo) April 10, 2021
I’m pretty sure Kalisto is not happy, Metalik, all those guys are not happy, but they don’t want to say anything – and I don’t know why.
I can say it now. I was there, I lived it and I know what it feels like and what it means. It’s really tough and it sucks. You know, the main Latino star at WrestleMania was Bad Bunny – and he’s not even a wrestler. Great for him, right? You know, he did an amazing job and that was awesome but if I was a performer, if I was a wrestler, a Mexican wrestler, a Latino wrestler and I’m not there, then I would have been upset, really upset about it, because I’ve been there, I’ve been busting my butt, I’ve been doing everything to make sure that I get an opportunity and then you don’t get it… It’s tough, man, it’s tough.
And then you realise that they don’t care about Latinos or Mexicans – because simply they don’t. No matter how much they say. If they want to do this, why is that? Why you don’t even have a star, a Mexican star, in WrestleMania? Not even one. Not one.
Personally, I’m so glad you mentioned Gran Metalik there because I’m always banging that drum. He’s such an amazing talent!
He’s an amazing worker, man!
So, I’m also very glad you mentioned Bad Bunny – because before I even knew we would be chatting, I was reminded of Sin Cara by Bad Bunny! He’s obviously not a Mexican talent, he’s Puerto Rican but proudly so and proudly Latino. He got some substantial TV time recently and was speaking a lot of Spanish on television, and that reminded me of Sin Cara cutting promos in both English and Spanish, translating along the way. How did that come about, and how difficult was it?
Well, I think it was just… Like, I grew up in the border, you know, Juarez El Paso, which is a border town, US and Mexico, and the only thing that divides us is the river, Rio Grande. We grew up in that culture, we call it Spanglish, where we talk back and forth.
I can be talking to you, even to my kids now, I do it… [He speaks Spanish] ..go play. I do it automatically. It’s not that I’m thinking about it. That’s the way that I talk sometimes with my kids or the people that I know. [He speaks Spanish] ..on first base.
You use both languages at the same time and, when we started doing the Sin Cara character and doing the promos, I put that essence of who I am into the promos and into the things that I was allowed to do because a lot of things that I wasn’t allowed to do, you know, it was just unfortunate that I never really got an opportunity to to do great promos, to tell my story of where I come from and who I am and and why I became Sin Cara and all those things. And it’s just unfortunate but, you know, you’ve got to continue moving on, living on.
I know there’s life after WWE. A lot of the guys don’t think there’s life, but there is. I just want to tell them that, you know, there’s a lot of talent out here that, you know, and that has that mindset and wants to keep working and if you’re not happy in your situation, I think you have the power to change it. Nobody else but you. But if not, then why you why you have all these excuses and you just say it in the locker room? If you want to speak out, speak out and and have, you know, the mindset to do it. And I’m pretty sure when you when you talk about… When you talk from your heart, you know, that’s the best thing you can do and nothing’s going to fail. It’s the truth. But if you continue to just being a place where they’re not using you then what’s the purpose of it? You’re not happy anymore. And then that reflects on every sense – your life, your family, your kids, everything. So it’s tough. But at the end of the day, I think the most important thing for us is to continue working and continue wrestling. That’s the thing that they can never take away from me. When I was in that ring, they can never take away my talent. They can take away the other stuff but not that. So I’m grateful for that.
You mentioned Sgt Slaughter earlier and sharing the ring with him and Hacksaw Jim Duggan. You’ve shared the locker room with some legends of the business in your time in WWE, the likes of Undertaker, John Cena and many others. I want to ask, what is the most surreal story you have from a legendary name?
I had great experiences with a lot of them. Everybody, most of them were really nice, really cool. I remember the last appearance I was at, I was still coming back from injury and the last WrestleMania that was in New York. And I was sitting down at the table and waiting. We were at Axxess and I was sitting down waiting to do my signing, and then I just see this big guy comes right next to me, like this, and then put out his hand. It was Undertaker. He came up to me to say hi to me! He comes up and I get up and I say, “Hi, how you doing, sir?” But it was really cool. And that was like something really cool about him. You know, he’s a very humble guy, very cool person. But it was just crazy. I’m sitting down and you see these big shadow, it was like, “Hey, how are you doing?” It’s Taker, so I got up, “Hey, how you doing, sir?” So I got up and started talking to him, but that was that was a really cool, cool thing that he did coming up to me instead of me, because he could just sit down and we’ll have to let you know…
Line up, form a queue!
Yeah! But he came up to me and say hi. That’s really cool.
So, I need to ask about the bit of controversy that seems to have followed you around slightly. You mentioned an argument with Cesaro earlier, but there have been reports about altercations with Chris Jericho and Simon Gotch in WWE – and that you were sent to anger management as a result. If you don’t mind, I want to ask – is that true and was it something you felt was beneficial at all?
Well, yeah, I got sent to anger management classes, that’s true. I got sent to anger management classes. That’s true. That’s very true. I had to do it because I had a couple of altercations throughout my career in the company. But, you know, the thing about about us is that, you know, as wrestlers, as performers, we may have a disagreement one day and we can take it out on ourselves and then the next day we’ll be fine.
No grudge. Nothing. It was just that spur of the moment. And that’s it. You know, and I did have a couple scuffles with some of them. But to this day, like me and Sheamus are really good friends, me and Jericho have no problem. Simon Gotch, I wish him the best. We’re not friends, but I wish him the best. I don’t wish him nothing bad. But it was one of those things that sometimes happens. We’re men, we’re in a sport where, you know, you want to be number one, you want to be the best. And I understand and I get it. But that is true. I got into anger management classes. And I don’t have an anger problem but I guess it was because I have gone through a few of those things and they just wanted to, in a sense, to see if I if I needed help. I guess. I don’t know.
What was your relationship like with Vince McMahon? Did you speak with him much?
No, I mean, I know he’s always been a busy guy. He’s a workaholic, man. And I understand, you know, a lot of things that he does and he’s a businessman at the end of the day and I don’t wish nothing bad for nobody in the company. I had great times there, but obviously there were a lot of things that I wasn’t agreeing with.
I never went to his office and knocked on the door. Never. I never waited outside his office trying to see if he’d talk to me. Why would I do that? You know, like I work for your company. If I work for your company and I’m putting my life on the line every time, I think we should have the time to be able to talk to our boss and communicate what we want and how we feel, and I don’t think it was something that I was going to do – just wait there for two or three hours to see if he could talk to me.
The interactions that I always had with him, they were really cool. I never had a problem with him. He was always cool with me. The time that I dislocated my shoulder, I finished the match and I went to the trainer and he came after the show was over to check on me and how I was doing. I said, “I’m OK.” And he said, “I know you’re not, but you’re a tough…” You know, he said another word and then he left – and it was pretty cool.
Other than that, me and him never really had like a relationship in that sense, because I don’t think it was one of those things that I need to do, knock on the door. If you’re going to use me, if I’m your talent, then why should I have to beg you or let you know my point of view if you already know that I’m here? You know my abilities. You know what I can do.
Everybody’s different but, for me, in that sense, I thought I never had to do it. Why would I have to do that? That’s why we have writers. You have all these people that, you know, before you get to him. Those guys couldn’t go and tell them, “Hey, Vince, this is what I talked to Sin Cara about.” This and that. It was that those guys don’t really care either. It’s true. They’re just get there to get paid, you know?
Two final quick questions. One – you’re a man who has worn many masks, even of different characters. You’ve showed me a rare mask you own, I can see masks all over your wall. Design-wise, which is your favourite mask of all time?
Wow, that’s a great question. There’s a few! I think one of the most… Let me show you. One which is considered the best Mexican wrestling is El Cobarde.
This is the most beautiful mask – from the Design and the colors and everything that comes with this mask is beautiful. This is considered one of the greatest masks or even the most beautiful mask in in the history of wrestling. The first Cobarde passed away really young, I think it was cancer. Miguel Ángel Delgado.
Then his brother, Francisco Delgado, was the one that they would continue the legacy and then he was the one that actually believed in me when I first started wrestling in Juarez. He was a programmer for the show, the booker for the shows over here and he was the one that actually saw talent in me and gave me an opportunity. Now I have wrestled and Cobarde Jr and now I’ve got to wrestle with his grandson, because a lot of his grandkids train with him, so it’s pretty cool. But for me, that’s the most beautiful mask.
You make yourself sound really old when you say that, but you’re vastly experienced but with plenty of years ahead! That said, final question, let’s look back. What’s the highlight of the career of Cinta de Oro/Sin Cara?
Being able to forge a career of what I love because not a lot of people get to do that.
A lot of people have dreams and goals, and they don’t work in the things that they love. I think that’s the toughest thing. For me, no matter what happens from here on that, I can say that I got to live my dream. I got to travel the world. I got to give my kids a good life, you know, an opportunity to succeed. So for me, that’s the most important thing. My family, my family.